Subject: Your web-page Date: Fri, 6 Feb 98 04:41:00 While I respect your religious beliefs or lack-thereof(I really could care less :)), I think you've made a mistake. Going into a christian channel to harass them or to get funny lines to post on your web page is just being disrespectful to them, did you ask those people in the channel if you could post their lines of text? If you got permission disregard this e-mail. If not, I think you should be courteous to them just like we have to be with every religion in this world. I've been on IRC for 3 years, I know how many religious channels there are, and I don't bother any of them, and any other respectful person should do the same. Thank you, Jamie Winner

Subject: rethink Date: Wed, 28 Jan 98 05:06:00 Adrian, I can't help but think how desperate you appear when trying to dissuade people from their beliefs. I realize not everyone shares the same if any faith, but,to try and turn people away is certainly a waste of energy. I also had no strong faith of any kind before my wife started wanting to go to church. Well we we've been going now for about 8 years and I must admit just how utterly lost I was before.Have you ever really read say."The gosplel according to John"? If you have, how can any thoughtful person flatly reject it? Something,I don't know what, has really turned you off. Please don't die this way. Give Him another chance.This time open your heart just a bit and I promise (if you ask him) Jesus Christ will come in! Sincerly,Dennis McWaters Richmond Virginia USA

Subject: READ THIS! Date: Fri, 23 Jan 98 21:04:01 Hi there, How can you not believe in ONE GOD. If you want proof of God's existence then you should read the Holy Quran. The Holy Quran is full of scientific facts, which prove the existence of ONLY ONE GOD - the creator of the Heavens and the Earth. The Quran is very cheap to purchase, if you wish to read it! I will only read one verse out of the thousands which are in the Quran: Allah (God) says in the Quran: "Did you create yourself or were you created out of nothingness?". In another verse Allah (proper name of God in Arabic), says: "Surely, if this book (Quran) is from anyone other than Allah (God), it would have many contridictions in it". The above verse proves that the Quran is a perfect book of guidence which has been maintained totally pure from any alteration over the last 1400 years, when it was first revealed to Prophet Mohammed(pbuh). There are verses in the Quran which challenge the whole of mankind to produce a book like it or even a chapter. Of course the challenge is not in English it is in Arabic; the language in which it was revealed to the Prophet. However, you can get a translation in English. To say the least the Quran is SIMPLY AMAZING. For example, The Quran was reavealed 1400 years ago, and it's got accurate infomation which is only being discovered this century, i.e., embrology, astrology, the movement of the sun, etc, etc. You will not understand what I am trying to emphasise until you read the book. You owe it to yourself to read it! E-Mail me if you have any questions. take care. ash...

Subject: I know, I know.... Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 16:29:00 You stated quite clearly that you don't want anyone sending you any "definitions" of atheism. As a "lifelong" atheist, I seek not to critique the merits of the atheistic thought-pattern; however, you imply that the deitical skepticism of the atheist universally crosses over into other "mystical" ideas and/or ideals. This is, I believe, incorrect. I am not a spiritual person--as an empiricist, a scientist, and a devout logician, I cannot create cause to believe where no evidence is provided (ie. Sagan's "god of the gaps"); but to be so (read: spiritual, mystical, et al.) does not preclude atheism. As you said, an atheist is simply one who does not believe in god. This is a concise, literal definition of atheism; and a good one. But when add to this, "Atheists know that we only get one chance at life. This is it. This is all you get. No reincarnation, no heaven or hell, no second chances. You only get one go, and to mess it up or waste it is the most terrible thing," you perhaps exceeded the true boundaries of the word. There, as you know, is no doctrine, no set palette of moral codes or theories/laws, with which the atheist must paint his universe. Personally, I agree with you: We don't get a second chance. Nevertheless, for you to claim that all atheists must share similar beliefs regarding the afterlife is spurious. I, for example, do not share your opinion that "all life is sacred"; to do so, in my opinion, is to attach meaning where there is none. This in no way invalidates your position as an atheist. Also, your assertion that Xtians only have to "believe in Jesus and be nice to people to get into heaven" is incorrect. The truth is much more horrendous; nowhere in the New Testament is it stated that you must "be nice" to anyone. All the Xtian has to do qualify for heaven is accept Jesus; this, perhaps, is one reason why the history of western civilization (or, for you, civilisation) is speckled with zealots and bigots, cocksure that no matter what monstrosities they brought about, they would still be entitled to an eternity of bliss. Far from commanding civility between men, Xtianity condones (and in some instances, encourages) lapses in said peace. Thanks for the page, Eric P.S. Keep up the excellent work. Although it might help you to remember that when you speak down to someone, you are unlikely to convert them. Insults speak only to the converted. P.P.S. My atheist site: http://www.olypen.com/igor/index.htm , contains a better description of what I consider atheism to be.

Subject: Not afraid of death page Date: Sun, 11 Jan 98 04:15:00 Thanks for your great page. I read it with much interest. I am trying to figure out how to calm fear of death. If interested, you will find discussion of such issues as yours in my home page: http://www.geocities.com/athens/delphi/2584 All best wishes to you! ROBERT

Subject: Answer if you can! Date: Tue, 9 Dec 97 01:17:00 Well, well well. Another person who gets to wait until he dies to find out weather he was right or wrong. You are very brave. I am glad to see a man convinced regarding what he believes and why. But it seems that you believe nothing. You have fun at your little 666 insignia, your demon email designation, hoop it up! You are living in a very exciting time. You will get to accept the computer as god!!! It is people like yourself that will be taken by the roots of your soul into an eternity that you never believed existed. Discount the bible if you choose, first though explain the record that is continuing to increase day by day. Come on man, are you going to hang your hat evolution? Are you going to actually disprove the most credible source on the planet. Are you one of the ignorant people that accept someone else's bashing of a book that is now the only source on the planet that records numerous cities, people by name, events recorded only in the bible and now found to be accurate as archeological discoveries catch up to the bible? How much have you studied? Maybe you read some of the nightmare events recorded, the killing, blood sacrifice, babies dying and decided to not integration believing in a God such as this. It is a bloody story. Don't make the mistake of judging the character that you don't approve of and miss the distinct possibility that He still exists, and you may meet Him someday. You will get to bring all your concepts with you. You can argue both sides of the issues regarding evolution and creation. As you have noticed, science is coming into the creation fold inch by inch, howbeit kicking and screaming. Your are right, they may not have identified the creative source as of yet, one step at a time, I guess. Israel, the nation that will just not go away. Two thousand years ago the world thought Israel was through. The bible recorded though that the last generation of life as we would know it, will see Israel, by name, reborn as a nation. Jerusalem would be a city that will become the center of worldwide controversy. Israel is the one nation that the recorded history of the bible concerns itself with. How in the world can you ignore a book that is one-third prophecy? If you say the bible is full of errors and can be interpreted many ways, go for it. That is the oldest argument in the world and the large majority of people that make this blanket statement have never studied the bible from cover to cover. They look for way to discredit without a credible study. Looking for any reason not to do a personal intensive study. Please give me the most credible fallacies you have discovered. I would like to have the opportunity to debate you or anyone else on the inearency of the bible. Deal with the facts of the bibles impact on archeology, the nation of Israel, the nations named in this generations coming conflict in the Middle East, the 200,000,000 man army from China, the Euro dollar, the peace process the world will try to jam down Israels throat, the coming world disaster in the ecology of the entire planet and the overall breakdown of order world wide. It is unfortunate that you apparently have no clue as to the real bible and the age in which you live and what time it is on the count down. Doomsday? No, reality!!! Why don"t you try to deal with the real world. There is hope for you! Keep your eye on the newspaper, between it and the bible you will figure out that there is a plan and it was established billions of years ago and is being carried out before your eyes. Just watch Israel and the United Nations attempt to enact its will. You are going to see the peace process start and stop! Don't jump on the bash Israel band wagon. The only support for Israel will be some Jews and Christians. SO, your chance of supporting the coming geo-political attack on Israel is set. You will be right there. Well, this will probably be a giant waste of my time, but just remember. God said in the bible, "Who blesses Israel I WILL bless, and who curses Israel I WILL curse." Watch the events unfold. Don't be fooled. George

Subject: Atheism Page Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 19:55:00 Just wanted to let you know... Your site is a welcome becon of light amongst the mass of theist crap and retoric out there. I read the book of the Center for Creation Science, and was quite discouraged that human intelligence was so low... your site brought me back up. Thanks again... I have an Atheist page I'd love you to look at if you get the time: http://members.cruzio.com/~jguz/ Its by no means finished. Thanks again, Joe

Subject: Infinity and Eternity Date: Sat, 6 Dec 97 05:41:00 I am an atheist but believe that religions have taught people to get along with each other. Religion is for those who need to believe that someone (God) is always watching them. I believe that the universe was not created. I believe that it always existed, just like it always will exist. I believe that the universe extends out infinitely in all directions. I believe that the number if stars (suns) is infinite. The probability that there are other earths exactly like ours with exactly the same things happening is very remote, nearly impossible, but not totally impossible. Keeping in mind that the universe is infinite, what is it that one gets by multiplying an extremely small fraction by infinity? The answer is INFINITY. This tells us that there are an infinite number of earths exactly like ours with exactly the same things happening all over those earths at exactly the same time. This is still just a small part of the many other things which exist in the infinite universe. Whatever one might think of, is happening somewhere at the present time and at any other time, provided that it is physically and mathematically possible. Karl H. Bottger USA

Subject: astronomy Date: Sat, 29 Nov 97 23:11:00 Have read your ideas about the universe. You have apparently swallowed the Big Bang Theory. It is a convoluted theory involving the explosion of a thing the size of an atom, the Hubbel constant regarding the red shift, etc., etc. It avoids telling us where the exploding atom came from (could it have been from God?} Until science can answer that question the Big Bang Theory has no foundation and consists of a lot of speculation. Even among scientists there is a dispute about the theory. In any case it does not contradict the notion of Creationism, as you call it. If there was a Big Bang it was God's way of creating the universe. Science has been wrong about many things. You state that in earlier times "religion" taught that the sun revolved around the earth. This was not a religious teaching. It was the teaching of the scientists of the time. Religious institutions and individuals made the ,mistake of accepting the views of science. That was a mistake and it would be another mistake to accept everything that science proclaims today, especially scientific "theories". It is more reasonable to accept that the universe was created by God than to accept all the speculations relating to the Big Bang, many of which are disputed by eminent scientists. Callan Graham, Junction, Texas USA

Subject: Read this every night Date: Sat, 29 Nov 97 07:49:01 Saint Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle, be our protection against the malice and snares of the Devil. May God restrain him we humbly pray, and do thou, O prince of the heavenly host, by the divine power cast into hell Satan and all the other evil spirits who roam through the world seeking the ruin of souls. Amen. . at the end say (3 times) ; Most Sacred Heart Of Jesus have mercy on us ............................................................................ ................................................... I hope it helps you. God bless . Eddie He didn't say which God I was supposed to pray to...

Subject: guten tag Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 18:41:00 i looked over your page and i liked it. i'm a theist(wiccan) and other theists always give me shit about what i believe. i don't believe in satan, but they call me satanic. oh well. they can all just kiss my butt.

Subject: BBC research Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 16:52:00 Dear Adrian, I have just had a look at your 'atheist' web site and wondered whether you might be able to help. I work in the Community Programme Unit at the BBC. We are in the early stages of researching a new six part series of thirty minute 'life-swap' documentaries scheduled for transmission on BBC 2 in the Spring/Summer of 1998. The series is provisionally called 'Living With The Enemy' and is based on the idea that, by spending a week living at close quarters with their perceived ideological enemies, peoples pre-conceptions and prejudices can be tested against real-life experience. For example, programmes might include: An animal-rights supporter from the town, with little actual experience of livestock or country life could spend a week working on a farm. Will the animal rights/ farmer stereotypes hold true or is reality more complicated? A concerned parent spends a week on tour with the outrageous thrash-metal band idolised by his teenage son. Does their influence undermine family values or is it just harmless fun? Will Dad become a fan? A pacifist joins the Para's for a week of yomping, target practice and debate on the nature of patriotism. Would a taste of life at the sharp end convince him of the need for a military deterrent? A Surrey housewife swaps the Volvo Estate and the detached house in the suburbs for a caravan in a field outside Brighton. Are these dirty, smelly, body-pierced hippie scroungers really a threat to decent society? We would also be extremely interested in setting up a programme in which a hard-line atheist joins a monastery, or religious retreat of some kind, for a week of abstinence, prayer, bible reading and theological debate. We are looking for someone who would be willing (indeed, would want) to take part and I thought (given the contents of your web site), it was worth getting in touch. Even if you are not interested, maybe you know others who are? If you would like to have a chat, e-mail me your number and I will give you a call. Yours sincerely, Gabe Solomon   I had to decline this interesting offer. I'm really quite shy and get terrible stage-fright. I nearly kacked my pants when I had to give a Best Man's speech at my best friend's Wedding! Also, I'm not sure that the concept would actually work. Getting an atheist to pray and read a Bible for week would be like trying to get a vegetarian to work and eat in a Steak-House for a week. I gave Gabe the URLs of a few other atheist sites, but I doubt she had much luck.

Subject: Re: WEB SITE Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 14:19:00 Adrian wrote: > > > Nina F. Coker spake thusly :- > >THANKS FOR THIS SITE. IT KICKS ASS! I LIVE IN WHAT HAS COME TO BE KNOWN > >AS "THE BIBLE BELT U.S.A" AND I'M ALWAYS BEING CRTICIZED BY ALL THE > >CHRSTIANS FOR BEING ATHEIST. I'VE ARGUED WITH ABOUT EVERYBODY IN MY > >SCHOOL ABOUT GOD AND THE BIBLE. MOST AGUEMENTS END UP WITH THE THROWING > >UP OF HANDS AND LOUD SIGHS AND OTHERS WITH THE CASUAL "FUCK YOU" AND > >WALKING AWAY. THE PEOPLE I HANG WITH ARE EITHER WICCAN,SATANISTS,OR > >ATHEISTS SO, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, I DON'T HAVE MANY FRIENDS. THE > >PRINCIPAL OF MY SCHOOL IS A PREACHER AND IS ALWAYS FINDING A WAY TO GET > >US IN TROUBLE. HE BLAMES US FOR EVERYTHING THAT GOES WRONG AND IS REALLY > >BEGINING TO PISS ME OFF. WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BE > >DIFFERENT AND NOT GET IN TROUBLE FOR IT. WE'RE DOING A DAMN GOOD JOB, > >TOO! ANYWAY, SORRY IF THIS WAS A LONG, POINTLESS, WASTE OFF TIME E-MAIL. > >JUST THOUGHT I'D SAY THANKS. > > Thanks, I'm glad you liked it. > A word of advice, though. Typing EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS makes it look as > if YOU'RE SHOUTING. =) > > NO, NINA DID NOT WRITE THIS, MY 15 YEAR OLD SON DID. DO NOT CONTACT THIS ADDRESS AGAIN, OR I WILL SEEK LEGAL ACTION. BECAUSE OF PAGES LIKE YOURS, I HAVE HAD TO BLOCK ACCESS TO THE WEB FOR MY MINOR SON. AND THE REASON THAT THIS MESSAGE IS IN CAPS IS BECAUSE I AM SHOUTING!!!!!!

Subject: Hello... Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 20:01:00 I was going to sign your guestbook but I got a message saying it was down for software upgrades. I found your website intersting and diverse. You asked what tangable proof I had for my ideas. Well, everything I know comes from first hand expierence. I've talked with spirits good and bad, had several unwanted alien encounters, and I Astral project every once in a while. I've also have done spell casting, tell I learned I could do things just by wanting it to happen. You say what does that prove to you though, nothing. These are my personal truths things that I wanted to learn. The same goes for you, you must find your own truths. As Co-Creationist we make our own little realities and help shape the larger reality. Tell me something you would like to see or have, within reason of course. I will try to make it happen for, no promises though. I can't go against the Whole of everone. The Whole is all the Co-Creationist together the All is the overmind created by the Whole. In this way I may help you find a truth. Well, I don't want to bore you to death so I'll leave off here. ~Everlasting Love & Light~ ~The Co-Creationist~ It's worth checking out the Co-Creationist web page. It's... unusual.

Subject: Hello Date: Sat, 1 Nov 97 10:23:01 Hello friend, I read portions of your atheism page and decided to drop you a line. I was once a strong athiest as well. I was certain that God did not exist. I began doing research on the falsities involved pertaining to the resurrection of Jesus Christ. It was through this research that I became aware that I was quite wrong. I discovered through empirical, historical, and scientific evidence that Jesus Christ did die and WAS resurrected just as surely as I am sitting here in my chair right now. It is irrelevant how many times you heard arguments for and against the existance of God, the facts are there proving the existance of God. If you have come to another conclusion, then I humbly submit to you that you were simply considering the wrong evidence. Logic and reason allows no other conclusion other than the existance of God once ALL the facts are compiled and examined by a truly objective observer. I wish you well on your quest for this information and I will be happy to help you with this research if you are truly interested in pursuing truth and scholarly knowledge. Sincerely, Derrick

Subject: A True Story Date: Sun, 12 Oct 97 00:23:00 Hi I have a story which I believe to be true that you might like to hear. I have worked for the Welfare Department in Los Angeles county for 25 years now. Another employee told me this story, which I believe to be true. A man came into one of our welfare offices and applied for General Relief. We require that a person complete an application and provide us with I.D. and some other documentation. This particular individual said he was god. The interviewer pointed out that if he was god he did not need General Relief. The individual stated that it was a test and that we had better give him General Relief. Eventually his case was denied because he could not provide I.D. Jim Taylor

Subject: Dinosaurs Date: Sat, 20 Sep 97 19:22:00 I'm not here to preach or condemn you to HELLFIRE, but I do not agree with you and your philosophy. I don't agree with it not only because I believe in a God, but because of scientific evidence on the subject. You say in your page on why Noah's Ark couldn't happen that he would have to transport all the dinosaurs? Uhh.. I've never heard anything about dinosaurs being alive since 65 Million years ago. Noah and his ark occured around 4000 years ago. If you want to do some armchair math, well you probably have time to do this one. Also in your page, you stated that the smaller fossils are found farther in the ground. Doesn't it make since that if the farther you go down, the more weight and pressure you have above you to break and crush the fossils? If the water does it to rocks, what will it do to a fragile body? At a depth of 30,000 ft, it would be as if an elephant were on every sq.in of your body. I doubt that a human or any other animal could stay intact with that on top of them. I'm glad you used the American billion because that's a lot of water pressure to break fossils and corpses. You ingeniously found an experiment to test if big rocks fall faster than silt. Did you let the glass sit long enough to see that the silt and dust fall down eventually and ...what? Float on the big rocks. Of course not. It falls between the cracks (since rocks aren't liquid) and fills in the spaces between. (After you edit your paragraph, you may want to try it.) Whoever you talked to about the fossils is completely wrong and probably biased (one of your friends?). Fossils were not formed 4000 years ago, it takes millions of years for phospates and other minerals to replace the organic carbon and calcium in bones. If it took 40 days, we'd be making petroleum in factories and would not have an energy semi-crisis on our hands. It was only 40 days! The animals weren't eating a gormet 8 course meal. They were probably only eating barely enough to stay alive. They were most likely fattened up before they got on the ark as well. They didn't exactly have to do a lot on the ark, sleep and sit probably. Not kicking around a soccer ball or playing cricket. They didn't spend a lot of energy sitting around. Seeds! The plants died, but they have seeds. Seeds grow into plants. Most seeds can survive 40 days since they are designed to survive a 6 month winter. In Egyptian pyramids, archeologists found wheat...and they were able to grow it. 2000 year old wheat can grow. Some more armchair math for you. Many plants also have extensive root systems that survive the harshest of conditions. They regrow immediatly after the danger is left. (Fires? Snow? Floods?) So after taking all this elementary thought into perspective, I have decided that the flood did indeed happen. I don't intend to change the way you think (we all have free agency) but I just wanted to bring you some light from the world of reality. At least take this into consideration next time you want to express your opinion to the ENTIRE WORLD it may save you a lot of dignity. Thanks for reading this! Sincerely, Noah

Subject: Atheist symbol & Your website Date: Mon, 15 Sep 97 11:07:00 Hi There Firstly, a complement on your website. I find a lot of Atheist websites either abusive or dripping in imagery designed to offend. I find this rather sad. How can I point 'reasonable' Deists to on-line Atheist resources when they have been deliberatly designed to piss them off!! Your, humble, suggestion for an Atheist sign.... may I offer a, even more humble, suggestion. How about a white circle on a black background. The reason being the more extremist fundies would delight in pointing out that your suggestion is black.... 'ooohh 'tis the sign of the devil.... being black' This would remove this critisism. Apart from that, minor, point, I think that this is a fine symbol. Simple and not aimed at ribbing any one particular beleif system, as your point 7. Kind regards Phil Kerr

Subject: THE COSMOS Date: Sun, 14 Sep 97 01:08:00 E=MC2 The equation for the atom bomb. It says that matter and energy are the same thing. So then what is that? Matter, look at a brick. Its in a three dimensional form. Its made of electrons, protons and neutrons (atoms) and they are moving so the brick is moving. Energy, sunlight. Its in a three dimensional form. It comes to us from the sun therefore it is moving. 3D and moving Both matter and energy are 3D and moving. I outproduce Einstein. We already know all matter has gravity. The bending of light shows that energy has gravity also. So matter and energy are 3D moving with gravity. The universe is made of matter, energy, time and space. That just stated is the matter and energy part. Time and space. Take everything in the universe and stop it. Does time progress? No. Therefore time is the motion and the understanding of all the motion is the understanding of all of time. Space, it ends. Space does not go on forever. Space is in a three dimensional form. It moves but does not have gravity. Space moves like this. O /\ + \/ O And that is the understanding of all of time. O This is what was first in the beginning. /\ This is the old kings and queens. + This is democracy. \/ This is socialism. O This is when the Lord Jesus Christ returns. And that is the understanding of the universe. Glory be to the Father the Son and the Holy Ghost. Revelation chapter 10 & 11; 15-19. It is very important the people receive this information. You may tell someone about this. Thank You Robert Lavelle I've seen this in several places now. This guy seems to like sending his unusual theory to atheists (guestbooks, comment pages etc.).

Subject: Comment Date: Thu, 21 Aug 97 15:31:00 Great site. I read the funny (stupid) things that theists say page. I've got one. In debating evolution with a catholic for some time, he finally decided that the only reason so much evidence backed the theory was this: God is so smart that he planted all this stuff just to test our faith. After I was done laughing, I just gave up. :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Jay Parnau

Subject: I HAVE TO TELL YOU SOMTING!!!!!!! Date: Thu, 14 Aug 97 01:21:00 You are right. The soul is not immortal as many religions teach. The BIBLE itself says that the soul that is sinning shall die. I was studying electrical engeneering at Purdue University about six months ago when I had an experience that changed my life. I inadvertantly had contact with the spirit realm. It does exist! Let me tell you that my view on creation was leaning to non-belife in a GOD. This has changed. God is real and I have proof. Most all religions are false but through the scientific method I have found the TRUE religion. If you would like to know more about my contact with the spirit realm just send some reply e-mail.

Subject: Date: Tue, 12 Aug 97 00:00:00 I am sending a link to a website containing a story of a pastors son. If you read the sight you will learn of mental and physical abuse inflicted through disownment, beatings and more in the name of defending the teachings and actions of his father. The story will shock you, and should be passed on to others to warn what can happen when religion becomes the tool of the truly mentally ill. http://members.icanect.net/~carmen Section called "The New Forum".