From: Chris P. Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 Nice home page. But a word of advice: It seems that your arguments against Christianity are based around the mindsets of Christians who apparently don't know what they're talking about. If you ever talk to a Christian who knows his/her stuff, you might be in a rut. I talk to a Christian friend of mine, and she "wins" the argument about half the time. There are very good logical and philosophical reasons to believe in Christianity. Just trying to help out. -Chris

Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 From: Todd G. Subject: Noah's Ark Hello.. I must say that you've got quite the interesting site here. I was searching the internet for evidence that Noah's Ark exists and I happened to come across your page. I have read your theories and it looks like you have spent many hours putting them together. I am a believer in God and in my Lord Jesus Christ. And although I do not take the same viewpoint on most of what you had to say, I'm not one who likes to spend time arguing with another person about theology or science. To me, it's just two people fighting, not to win the other person over, but to confirm their own beliefs. I believe that God created the great flood and that He gave Noah the wisdom to build the ark and to gather and care for the animals. And I believe that afterwards He created a rainbow to remind us that the world would never again have to endure something like the flood. As for your remarks about God not being compassionate, I disagree fully with that. I believe that He has given us the choice today to either follow Him, or go our own way. Those that follow Him will spend eternity with Him in Heaven. Those that aren't able to make a choice for themselves (such as babies or mentally challenged) will go to Heaven as well. So people, such as yourself, don't have a desire to follow God but He loves you just the same and wants you to spend Forever with Him in His Kingdom. In closing, let me again say that I don't like to argue because arguing with you would not settle anything. We both have our own beliefs, and although we each want the other to believe what we do, it's important not to be offensive. I want you to know that I pray for people like you every day in hopes that they will find the hope, joy, and peace that I have found in my Lord and Saviour. Thank you for your time. Sincerely, Todd G.

From: FreeWyngz@aol.com Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 Subject: ATHEIST SYMBOL Found your page through a relative link. It is interesting that you have chosen the circle as your "humble" symbol for atheism. "The whole world is a circle." The circle is an image found throughout a multitude of religions and peoples! Even Plato remarked that the SOUL is a CIRCLE! Perhaps your choice is a bit of a "Freudian slip?" Come up with something more original for your pitiful self! FREE - Ezekiel of the Bible speaks at great length of the image of the circle or wheel.

Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 Subject: Hello I am very sorry that you feel this way about all of these things. All I can do is tell you the truth. God is real and I don't just believe, but I know that all of these things are true. I am not telling you to read Matthew or Psalms. Go and Read Revelation 21:8 and you will see where you stand when the time comes!!!!! For those of you who don't have a Bible handy, the verse given reads as follows: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death." (I got a Bible for my birthday. From my good, atheist friend Graham.) Hmm... By that logic, anybody who claims to be "God-fearing" is going to Hell for being "fearful". =)

From: Wesley Barber Subject: Thank you Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 I live in the southern part of Alabama which is probably the most religious part of the state maybe in the U.S.; so it is always refreshing to read and talk to people who are well read and rational about ideas not just set in their ways. It is important to be critical of anything you believe in. If there is some way to disprove your beliefs then your belief system must be flawed. Other avenues must be looked at as well as other ideas. For someone to believe that thier belief system is far superior means that they have not experienced the world or even looked at their own lives. Closed minded people make rational people sigh in disbelief. It makes our jobs more difficult. The truth is there and they only need to open through their fog of religion to see that we can find most answers that religion says "It's God's will". That excuse no long has any validity! Thank you, Wesley I'm surprised at how many emails I get from Alabamans. The Bible Belt must be Hell. But I guess "The Hell Belt" wouldn't be such a popular name...

From: "10648" Subject: As though you didn't get enough email about religion today already... :-) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 I came across your atheism page just recently and it really is fascinating. I can't say I agree with all you had to say, and I did want to make a point or two... (by the way, I think you must be a brave person to put your email address on such a site...I wasn't expecting to find an email address. I also hope you don't consider any of this "preaching." You probably get a lot of that. I did look through your site and found, on a cursory level, you to be an analytically-inclined person. I hope this appeals to that as I am (trying to be, I hope) logical here. I'm not trying to change your mind, only to give you information about the only first and 100% mono-theistic religion on Earth. You should probably understand a little about it before you write about religion in general. I am a Jew. I have done much investigation the major "religions" of the world and have come to quite a few conclusions. Firstly, know that I do believe in a God. When I look around and see an unimaginably complex universe down to even the most microscopic level and see, for example, creatures called humans with their mind-boggling ability to think with those gray blobs in their skulls, I cannot imagine how this could be without God. (I hope this isn't preaching--honestly I do. I respect your desire to ignore emails like that and really do want you to read mine.) Maybe you want to call it "nature." I choose to call it God. Beyond that, I hope you know that Judaism was the first--and is the only completely--monotheistic religion. I thoroughly agree with you when you say that many (although I think you said "all) religions promote superstition and are self-serving to those who practice them. Take Greek or Roman mythology, for example: the gods they created mirrored their own human failings: greed, envy, hatred, yada yada. By making "gods" with these petty and childish qualities, they could justify them in themselves. Judaism is unlike any other religion that has ever existed. That is an entirely true statement. Living in the U.K., you are no doubt more familiar with the major Christian denominations' beliefs. That is unfortunate. Both Christianity and Islam, offshoots of Judaism, are self-serving to those who practice them and both inherently carry with them notions of superiority. For example, both took men and "deitized" them. That is very significant. The only thing in Judaism beyond the regular man is God. Christianity and Islam both allow their followers to personalize and suggest that what they believe is more important than what they do. (Jesus will forgive all sins...yada yada, and all that crap. Not only does it not make sense that someone other than the offended could forgive you, it also promotes a lack of consequences when you can just go to confession and be forgiven.) They both "think" that only those who practice their religion and "believe" (only "believe," mind you--you don't necessarily have to DO anything) in their deities will be "saved." That is a bunch of baloney and reason enough to reject religion. Judaism, however, is entirely different. A "good" non-Jew is better than an unobservant Jew. The only reason Jews consider themselves distinct is because God chose THEM (again, I'm not preaching. I just don't feel like typing "supposedly," or, "if you want to think this happened," over and over) to be "model people" as far as morality is concerned. The ONLY REASON He chose THEM (Abraham and all of that) was because they were a weak nation and the success of their religion would be attributed to God and not to their weapons--a characteristic never true about Christianity or Islam. (I am writing under the supposition that their is a God. Without God, everything is allowed. The idea that "morality" is relative is bogus. I am attempting to explain the basics of Judaism to you so that you are not ignorant of THE first monotheistic religion when you say you do not acknowledge religion. I think you'll agree that you should have some knowledge of the only completely monotheistic religion before you claim that religion does not interest you. Still, I am not preaching with the intent to change your mind. But you should have all of the facts, right? You won't find them in Christianity) Anyway, for me to continue, you must realize that I am writing about the thoughts of Judaism and so I will refer to God as though He is actually in existence. Jews do not think themselves better than non-Jews simply because they call themselves this or that. In fact, being Jewish is mostly a genealogical thing passed down through family lines. A non Jew doesn't become a Jew by believing in what Jews believe in. The purpose of the religion is not to expand and get new members. Only to bring about a universal recognition of God. (for example: the messiah (and don't think that word means what Christians have taught the world it means) is supposed to be a descendent of King David, himself a descendent of a convert. How centric can the religion be when its "savior" (and that doesn't mean what you think either) is descended from a convert?) In actuality, while there are so many commandments that a Jew must follow, there is a separate list that non-Jews are to follow if they are to be seen as "good" in God's view. They are called the Noahide laws (after Noah) and are less strict than the famous ten (which are never translated correctly in English bibles. Remember that it was written in Hebrew originally (supposedly from God's words) and any translations are human interpretation. Also, the wording of a Torah ("the old testament" as it is referred to by Christians) has not changed for thousands of years. Any copy of the original Torah is verbatim from the original. None are allowed to be used unless they are word for word. The "scribe" must start over if any mistakes are made--they are all handwritten. Anyway, the laws that Jews are required to keep (in exchange for "protection" from God--having been taken out of Egypt etc. Don't forget how long Judaism has been around and how many unbelievably powerful armies have tried to eradicate it so many times throughout history.) The laws that Jews are required to keep are stricter than those of non-Jews because the Jews were to be the example setters. NOT THAT THAT MAKES THEM ANY "BETTER." An unobservant Jew is worse than an "unobservant" non-Jew. That is why it is hard for people to convert to Judaism because the rabbis would prefer that people who would not be good Jews remain simply moral non-Jews. This could go on forever and I am really not the expert to do it. If you are interested at all, email me back with reasons why Judaism promotes any of the bad things you say religions do. I will explain why you're incorrect. The only thing I could not do is prove to you there is a God. In Judaism, God is complete One-ness. Much like "the Force" in Star Wars. If you want to call that force "nature," fine. The only difference I can see is that I would say that "force" is sentient. Anyone not believing that "force" is conscious seems to be refusing to acknowledge any conscious power beyond their own brain. Please email me with any "challenges" that I could respond to. When you say religions are transient things that come and go and worship this or that depending on the weather, I would agree. Judaism, however, does not fit any of those descriptions. NOTHING is worshiped but God, very simply. No holy trinity, no statues, no people claiming to be God's kin, just "God" who is not definable. It has been that way for thousands of years despite thousands of attempts to eradicate it. (for example: in Shakespeare's "The Merchant of Venice," there is a character who is the false stereotype of a Jew--greedy, cold hearted, etc--and who is alluded to be Jewish. The significant thing about this was that Jews had been banned from the English kingdom for about a century before Shakespeare was born and weren't allowed back in until about 50 or so years after his death. It is not likely he ever saw a Jew, and yet he had a negative image of them. THAT is how anti-Semitic the history of the world has been, and in spite of that their are more Jews now than their have ever been. It was this "protection" and the Torah that God gave the Jews in exchange for their observance of His commands. If you read this far, I really appreciate it. I gladly welcome any questions or challenges to what I have said and what I maintain. :-) 10648@thegrid.net

Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 From: Jeremy Andrew Strain First of all, thank you for giving me a small space to voice my opinions. You have done a great job of presenting your point in a civilized and intelligent manner. I am a Christian, and therefore disagree with you over these issues, but I just wanted to let you know that we are not all the type of people that preach hell and damnation, etc. I do believe that hell is a very real place, but I certainly do not believe that Christians should proceed to threaten everyone that has a different opinion with eternal damnation, and most other Christians don't subscribe to this belief either. While I disagree with you, I most certainly respect your right to believe what you want, and to voice your opinion here. I do not want to preach to you...I am sure that you have heard all of that before. I would just ask you not to judge Christianity on the basis of televangelists, etc. Most of us are normal people who are not out to preach at (by this I mean yell and scream about hell and Satan and God and Jesus AT you) people with different beliefs. I think it is great that you don't take things at face value just because others tell you to believe it. I have looked at what I believe, and I truly believe that this is the truth. I am the first to admit that alot of terrible things have been done in the name of Christianity, but this does not mean that true Christianity condones this behavior. The Bible certainly speaks out against things like the crusades, spitting on athiests and slashing their tires (this was in someone's response), etc. I know that I have been a bit long winded. We Christians do that sometime :) (that was joke:)) Anyway, I don't agree with your beliefs, but I do give you alot of credit for standing up for your beliefs and not taking things on blind faith. In closing, please don't judge all of us by the few people that claim to be Christians but dont't live by it. I don't mean to judge others, but just because someone claims to be a Christian, dosen't mean they are. Again, I respect you for you willingness to accept criticism and stand up for your beliefs, and I respect your right to believe what you think is right. I hope that this mail can get rid of some of the stereotypes about Bible thumping Christians. Most of us are actually pretty friendly people:). Please feel free to write me back. I know that you are extremely busy, and probably get alot of mail more interesting than mine, but if you find yourself with nothing to do, which I do often:), I would love to hear from you sometime, but please don't feel obligated to mail me if you are busy. Jeremy Strain

Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 From: Ian Hackett This is a fantastic page. Reading your pieces was like reading about every argument I ever had with religious people. I'm only 16 and attend an affluent public school in Surrey. I've got some excellent arguments but I can't write any now because I know I'll just want to write more and more and end up writing pages. I have a certain degree of respect for Christians who base themselves on the Bible but I have an unspeakable loathing for liberal wishy washy damn Christians who just ignore the bits of the Bible they don't like and just basically accept the bits they do so they end up with a message saying something like 'Christianity just wants everyone to get along and you'll get to heaven.' The thing that leaves me most cold about Christians is that they have the arrogance and audacity to look at a planet on which life has existed for 4,600 million years and humans have been around for 12,000 years or so (less than one one hundred and eighty three thousandth of the duration of the earth) and they have the damn arrogance to say that god created the world with them in mind it leaves me cold. I also hate the way that Christianity is rammed down my throat in compulsory worship services etc. AAAAAARGH! An excellent example of liberal christianity is shown with the attitudes to homosexuals. Now I don't have anythig against them but Christians should hate them, 'Homosexuality is an abomination' Lev 20:13 'If a man lies with a man as one would with a woman both of them have done that which is detestable and should be PUT TO DEATH' Lev 18:22 1Tim 1:9-10 'Homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of God. Can the Bible make it any clearer? All right let's have a go: God wipes out an entire valley including two major cities and several small villages (Genesis 19) because they were homosexual. Homosexuality is likened to any kind of fawnication and sexual deviance and so is considered the same thing as adultary. AND YET WITH ALL THIS STUFF BEHIND IT HALF THE GOD DAMN ROMAN CATHOLIC SYNOD ARE LOBBYING FOR GAYS TO BE ALLOWED TO BECOME PRIESTS!!!!!! I'd just like to reiterate that I have nothing against homosexuality but am merely using this as an example of how Christian ethics has given way completely to Western politics. They argue that these teachings were old and don't apply anymore! Where does it say that??????!!!!!! 2Tim3:16 says, 'All scripture is inspired by God.' it does not say, 'Scripture is largely irrelevant so feel free to piss about with it like a fashion accessory!' I'm sorry this is descending into a rant now but you get the idea. I could write reams of anti-christian arguments if you want me to. Let me know.

Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 From: holyoutlaw How is it possible to talk of good and bad, right and wrong, what is and what ought to be unless you have a moral point of reference onwitch to define these terms? Can an atheist be a good person with out believing in God? The fact of the matter is that there is no rational way to justify the goodness unless you have a transcendent power, a higher point of reference. A person may choose to be good, but that goodness will ultimately be defined on what God defines as goodness. It simply gives an atheist every reason not to be moral because he or she decides what is right. There are three steps you take in determining the existence of God. Step one. However you section physical reality, you take the physical universe as you see it. However you slice it down to its minute form, the fact of the matter is, you end up with a physical entity or quantity that does not have the reason for its existence in its self. Ultimately the physical universe reduced in any form cannot explain its own origin. It must explain itself outside of its self, which means the first explanation of a universe as we see it has to have something that is not physical as a first cause. So you have a haunted universe without knowing what the first cause is. Next you come to the argument which is called not from design but to design. You cannot think that a dictionary came together from an explosion in a printing factory - there is a sequence to its creation. Also, if you take the component of the enzyme in the human component, the enzyme which is the building block of the gene, and the gene the building block of the cell, the possibility of the human enzyme coming together by chance is one in ten to the power of forty thousand. Thats more than the atoms in this universe. So I say to you that the physical quantity can not explain itself. There is intelligibility that assumes a prior mind. Why do Christians say there is a loving and all perfect God when there is so much of evil in this world? I have a question fore you. If you say there is such of thing as good, arent you assuming there is such of thing as evil? If you say there is a such of thing as evil, arent you assuming that there is such a thing as a moral law on the basis of which to differentiate between good and evil? If you believe in moral law you must also believe in a moral lawgiver. However, thats whom youre trying to disprove. If theres no moral lawgiver then theres no moral law. If theres no moral law, theres no good. If theres no good theres no evil. The atheistic view cannot be justified and is poor science. Wy will you go to any extreme to deny evidence thats contrary to your way of thinking. When you look at this behavior closely, its amazing that you claim to have a rational mind. Charles Darwin changed the history of the world as a phobic misfit. Charles Darwin actually stole some of the concepts of natural selection from his grandfather and never gave credit to him or any one else, so why then is he the hero of the plot scene? He did not come up with the answer first - the so-called answer of natural selection. He is the hero of the plot because he is the first man in history to say that his mind in its phobic turmoil was the chaotic universe finally realizing its own existence. So how important then is the controversy between creation and evolution? Meaning, purpose, answers to the facts, if we really want to embrace the truth, evolution has no real basis in fact. Its only a presupposition that must be held as an imperial dogmatic position; it cannot be supported by close examination. Like communism, it has to be the only ball game in town. So how important is this question of creation or evolution? If we were designed and created then we must give an account to a creator. Steven J. Gould has said that there have been over a hundred major debates between evolutionist and creationist, and, we, the evolutionist have lost them all . He said we should stop debating these people. What he is saying is that when the evidence for evolution and the evidence for creation are set out before an audience, the creationist said Gould, always wins. And so therefore we should stop debating them. Instead, we should get the courts to forbid that evidence to be set before the minds of the public and in schools. Atheists always lose the debate, so you try to win by censorship. There is a God and He is only lost to the mind that refuses to accept the evidence. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. Ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth. Its not the way you or I see it, but the way truth sees itself. "Truthfully". You atheist will always try to discredit the Bible. Mathematicians have now discovered a code in the Bible - not Christian or religious mathematicians. The code is so complex that only a intelligence of absolute power could have placed it there. A leading code breaker fore the united states government confirmed it was there. He tried in vain to disprove the code but was unable. The code authenticates the bible proving once and fore all that the bible is the word of the creator. Your questions self-destruct on themselves. It shows that at the core of it all, you dont want the God of the Bible because you want to behave like animals by what you deem as just. If there is a god who created him and who created the one that created him and so on. Albert Einstein theorized that the closer you travel to the speed of light, time slows down and ultimatly stops. if time stops then the first cause witch is god does not need a creator the first cause is not bound to the physical universe and its principles, take a perfect sphere and try to find the beginning to it, we cannot know or learn the principles that govern gods plain of existence' only speculate. Wy do you persist on pointing out things in the bible that you claim is wrong wen you have no moral basis onwitch to do so. Were does this secret knolage of truth come from that you have inorder to say this is right or wrong. If its your own moral basis then you cannot expect any one other than your self to understand because your moral basis is distinctly you. So please spare me your commentary on the bible. Because with the absence of absolute truth your commentary of the bible has no more meaning than a dried up twig thats fallen to the ground. Recently human footprints were being excavated at the same level as the dinosaurs and a certain atheist was caught destroying the evidence with a pickax desperately trying to cover up a historical find. If you need evidence i recommend fore your next vacation to visit Glen Rose Texas and watch what's being excavated. If scientist had the capability to produce a race of robots with the same complexity as the human body and gave them the same desires humans have would you say there existence came about by random chance, know you would not, so wy then is man and the universe random chance, even if those robots were found excisting on a nother planet with no evidence of there creation it would be impossible to asume they were created by random chance. I need to tell you you have more faith than i will ever have to believe in random chance or creation without design. Nothing + nothing = creation, thats faith. Ultimatly your life is meaningless void of purpose, you can call the love of your wife or children or friends meaningful and find some confort in that, but ultimatly the atheistic view leaves you with a meaningless existence. If your a intelligent atheist this is the correct equation, wy waste your time on learning wene in the end it means nothing. The bible has worn out many hamers, and the book still lives, if there is one thing that is certain, it is that atheist has no need fore god, even if he exist. You must learn to govern your foolishness it will be your undoing. ultimatly you have know moral point of refrence to say what is right or wrong because if there is no god theres no satan or evil, and no moral basis, then you sir are vain. May you find god and find him well.

Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 From: Charles H. Fritsche Subject: Your very enlightening page Dear Adrian: I have believed along these lines for the past three years and I am glad I found your page. I thought I believed in God, but there was a naging voice telling me the very same things that you have put down in writing. (Of course that was the devil talking according to the Theists) Yeah, sure. Suddenly I don't feel so all alone knowing someone else believes along the same lines. I must have inherited this belief from my grandfather, he told people he was an Atheist, but they never took him seriously. My mother and father weren't church people either. I had the best parents in the world and now there gone. I will stand by my morals against any of these Theists. Thank you for sharing. Charles H. Fritshe

Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 Subject: hi-just a fellow atheist (15 yrs old) Hi my name is Steve, im 15, live in Columbus Ohio, and i am an atheist as well. i really enjoyed your web page as it reinforced the things i believe in (atheism). i go to a catholic school called bishop hartley and i find it very funny/annoying when people ask each other to pray for things. even the idea that, if there is a prayer-request god as so many of my classmates think there is, the more you ask the more you get back. this going on while most of there parents get annoyed if their children nag at them. i would think this god they believe in would get a bit ticked. You can post this message if you want on the web page or even include the point i made in the web page itself if you like :) i like what you are doing with the web page (if everyone else can preach their entire religion why cant we just say a few enlightening things?) c ya and keep the faith (right)

From: Kelly & Carol Farmer Subject: Noah's Ark Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 I have been engaged in doing research on the book of Genesis, in God's Holy Word. I believe in every passage in the Bible 2 Timothy 3:16-17 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. (KJV) 1 John 3:7-9 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (KJV) I am not trying to preach to you, as you have a difference of opinion. And I am not angry in any form, so Raca is not my name. There is too much evidence of a God in heaven to be ignored, and someday, everyone will realize that...even you. So, I am not here to argue, or to plead a case before anyone. Just was on my way to do some research and found your webpage and thought I would give you my side of the story. May the peace of Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God give you wisdom and understanding. Rev. K. Farmer No, I didn't really understand this one either...

Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 From: Oceane Subject: Can you put this up on your feedback page? You ask why Adrian and others shouldn't "waste" their time creating pages like this (atheism pages)?! How can you ask that question? Bibles (or whatever you call them in your religion), holy books, satanic manuals, etc. are everywhere! Why shouldn't we be able to spread OUR "good word"??? If we're wasting our time, then all those other religious pages are also wasting THEIR time! Check your premises. Oceane

From: darrell Subject: Your website The only thing I would like to say regarding the things you state on your Website, is in the form of a suggestion: I truly believe that if you read the Bible from begining to end (but first ask The Holy Spirit to help you to understand and show you the truth), you will do a 360 change in your beliefs. That may be too much of an undertaking for you, but Iv'e been able to do it 7 times in the last 8 or so years. But a lot of people (not saying that you are one-for I do not know), love to be completely negative about something, when they have not fully researched it. There are a number of religions in the world, and many claim to have had great leaders, but the Christian religion is the only one who claims that their leader has come back from the dead. If your leader cannot do that - how powerless is he? I will pray for you when I close this letter, that God will lead you to the truth and that the truth will set you free. In Jesus name. Sincerly, Darrell Chipman It worked! My beliefs completely went through 360 degrees. So I'm still an atheist...